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The Sunspear Lieutenant rank is Second Spear. 212.74.96.197 05:40, 21 January 2007 (CST)

Now changed to "First Spear", even though it still actually requires Second Spear... Issa Dabir 18:21, 29 May 2007 (CDT)

Clarification, The people appear when you are seconds spear but the fight doesn't start. You have to be first spear for the fight to begin. 24.18.131.180 19:28, 28 July 2007 (CDT)

Can someone clear this up for me? I'm a 2nd spear and i have no quests to do, at all. This is a serious problem and i think they should change the quest back to 2ns spear requirement, I'm not gonna go around killing 100+ bugs for sunspear pts, thats ridiculous

No, it's called grinding... RT 21:13, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

wow, that was funny, good job, its really awesome that you go onto discussions where people want help and make smarta$$ comments

He was telling you what you have to do. If you have no quests, you're going to have to grind those points. Lord of all tyria 21:57, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
This sucks major.....I, too, am 50 points short of First Spear without any more quests to do....what the HELL was ANet thinking, making this so much more similiar to WoW's BOOOOOORING faction grinding? Killing 50 enemies is gonna be fun *YAWN* *seriously pissed and not very enthusiastic in playing on her elonian char* --TakisigTaki Fujiko 15:00, 5 March 2008 (UTC)



  • I noticed it is possible to pull a guard by standing to the west of morgahn, by talking and instantly running, making the quest much easier.
    • Note that this means the kournan guards will still be in aggressive form. You can simply talk quickly, or send henchmen in to distract.
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