where drop that ?

It drops when you kill Grognar Gravelhead, he spawns in Sorrow's Furnace at different locations. If you want it, either keep going to the Furnace and farm there, or hang around Deldrimor War Camp and you might find someone selling it. --Karlos 22:25, 20 Sep 2005 (EST)

Contents 1 Collector weapon counterpart 2 Dyes 3 Double Health better than double damage reduction? 4 little thom 5 Double reduction

Collector weapon counterpart Edit

Its not the same as crimson carapace, those are tactics — Skuld 22:54, 11 February 2006 (CST)

Hmmm, I think they both require tactics....

Yes they are. Foo 06:49, 23 April 2006 (CDT)

According to the website, they still aren't identical because the crimson carapace shield only reduces physical damage while Grognar's Defender reduces all damage. Is that correct? kirtar

Dyes Edit

Can anyone upload any pics of any dyed Grognar's Defender? Foo 06:49, 23 April 2006 (CDT)

You can't dye green items. --theeth 07:54, 23 April 2006 (CDT)

:o thanks. Foo 08:40, 23 April 2006 (CDT)

Double Health better than double damage reduction? Edit

What do you guys think? I say double health. --Wethospu 06:52, 24 October 2006 (CDT)

What are you talking about? Skax459 17:16, 26 April 2007 (CDT)

little thom Edit

This looks like the skin for little thom's shield. Is this skin used for anything else? Mr Dan 23:39, 19 November 2006 (CST)

Stefan has one too. --Thom Bangalter 13:48, 16 January 2007 (CST)

Doesn't look like this skin is used for a standard shield. Should be noted that the shield has a unique appearance, but the Warrior henchman can be seen wielding it. --Valentein 23:37, 25 April 2007 (CDT)

Actually, you can find a certain spoiler-related boss wielding that shield in Hell's Precipice. You know, the one you cap Hundred Blades from? ;) --Shyft 23:59, 25 December 2007 (EST)

Very late comment, but having noticed someone here, they added the skin as Militia Shield in Eye of the North.Entrea Sumatae [Talk] 05:20, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

Double reduction Edit

I have never seen these "Double Damage Reduction" shields -- where do I get one of those? where do I get a double health -- I don't think those exist--Vidnuev 11:56, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

I haven't seen any double reduction shields in a very very very long time. --SLeeVe 12:23, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Double reduction exists but not double health. Big Bow 22:21, 21 April 2008 (UTC)